tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5292734369805726323.post6387891138059229033..comments2023-11-12T20:59:55.490-05:00Comments on Building a Jewish Life: UPDATED: Why You Shouldn't Date During ConversionKochavahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11841373131402987905noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5292734369805726323.post-60005098458560043402022-10-24T21:04:38.208-04:002022-10-24T21:04:38.208-04:00100 PERCENT INVALID AND ALL THE TORAH AUTHORITIES,...100 PERCENT INVALID AND ALL THE TORAH AUTHORITIES, 100 PERCENT OF THEM, RENDERED THEIR MARRIAGE,NUL AND VOID !! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5292734369805726323.post-28084474780201082022019-02-13T18:59:08.609-05:002019-02-13T18:59:08.609-05:00It's been several years since this was posted ...It's been several years since this was posted and I want to add my two cents. If a born Jew wants to date a conversion candidate and wants to wait for you, go for it. Guess what, it may be a valid conversion as long as the candidate is sincerely, I've heard this from many Orthodox rabbis, despite the bitter frum born-Jewish woman who left a comment above saying it's never valid. SorryAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5292734369805726323.post-26365200626578470262016-12-26T18:29:34.893-05:002016-12-26T18:29:34.893-05:00What about Ivanka Trump?, Is her גיור Invalid? ...What about Ivanka Trump?, Is her גיור Invalid? 'Cause every body knows she just converted to get her hands on JarredAvital Morhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16628890642705457117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5292734369805726323.post-43383123897749754242016-03-27T11:48:04.108-04:002016-03-27T11:48:04.108-04:00What about dating another conversion candidate? T...What about dating another conversion candidate? That seems like it might skirt some of the potential issues since you both have the same status, but maybe not?Avigayilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10688688918378198692noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5292734369805726323.post-13074766145358867322016-03-27T11:45:29.364-04:002016-03-27T11:45:29.364-04:00What about dating another conversion candidate? I...What about dating another conversion candidate? Is that seen as more acceptable since you aren't risking drawing a Jew into intermarriage?Avigayilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10688688918378198692noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5292734369805726323.post-58817393768490901242014-05-20T17:14:46.167-04:002014-05-20T17:14:46.167-04:00I'm Jewish Baal Teshuva and married. I've...I'm Jewish Baal Teshuva and married. I've been advising a non-Jew in my office who wants to convert and she was considering a Conservative conversion while going through the process of asking an orthodox rabbi to convert her. I encouraged her to do orthodox b/c Conservative is not a valid conversion. She's single and really wanted to date (Jewish men) and I told her to make sure toAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5292734369805726323.post-12234471493082080682013-12-07T11:25:42.513-05:002013-12-07T11:25:42.513-05:00What about someone dating an observant Orthodox Je...What about someone dating an observant Orthodox Jew through online and never met. And suddenly he or she begins to have interest in Judaism and made self research and discovered many things and realised that he or she has been following the wrong path and now sincerely wants to be converted to Judaism without any pressure from his/her Jewish and he/she not even aware from the beginning that a JewAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5292734369805726323.post-53798765300736697792013-04-14T12:40:52.138-04:002013-04-14T12:40:52.138-04:00Hey Kochava,
I'm a 22-year old Modern Orthado...Hey Kochava,<br /><br />I'm a 22-year old Modern Orthadox university student. I have this good friend who's 30 and not exactly Jewish . . . She grew up practically living with the family of the rabbi of their town in Italy, and actually living with them for months at a time every few years. She's in love with me. I have too many inhibitions to let myself go the way she does, and I HaGibornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5292734369805726323.post-6117253566275789692012-06-08T04:39:35.914-04:002012-06-08T04:39:35.914-04:00A jew can only marry another jew. Whilst a person ...A jew can only marry another jew. Whilst a person is in the conversion process, they are not a jew, thus a jewish person should not date them, and even worse converting in order to be with a specific jewish person invalidates the conversion. Yes, it's true that conversion is basically dating limbo, and whilst hard that is the way it should be. Before anyone starts screaming at me for being Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5292734369805726323.post-67383221720279404272011-05-17T19:20:32.742-04:002011-05-17T19:20:32.742-04:00Timing is an issue. My conversion took 5 1/2 years...Timing is an issue. My conversion took 5 1/2 years. Many a proposed mikveh dates came and went. I would definitely wait until after conversion because the (born) Jew may not be so patient (also it's not like you can push your Beis Din because you have someone interested in you).B.R.http://www.rishonan.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5292734369805726323.post-50441087554371471182011-04-06T16:02:24.324-04:002011-04-06T16:02:24.324-04:00With no yichus and having the stain of being a ger...With no yichus and having the stain of being a ger/giyoret (can't marry kohanim, but welcome to marry mamzerim), how exactly does an Orthodox convert in their late twenties or thirties go about finding their bashert?<br /><br />Anonymous, what was the big issue that turned the whole community against you?Usuariohttp://jewsbychoice.org/members/usuarionoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5292734369805726323.post-74723302010991368622011-03-07T06:13:06.702-05:002011-03-07T06:13:06.702-05:00I met my husband during the conversion process. No...I met my husband during the conversion process. No one had directly told me not to date but I had no plans to date anyway. I was in predominately MO circles and it was nice to have male MO friends who had no interest in being anything other than friends. People whispered that at my age (25), I would have a hard time getting married by the time I finished the process but I was too naive and green Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5292734369805726323.post-10574760089329897642011-03-06T15:04:31.274-05:002011-03-06T15:04:31.274-05:00Okay! I responded here: http://www.kvetchingeditor...Okay! I responded here: http://www.kvetchingeditor.com/2011/03/response-dating-during-conversion.htmlChaviva Gordon-Bennetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03332712096317076482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5292734369805726323.post-43759058883344157502011-03-01T23:46:24.632-05:002011-03-01T23:46:24.632-05:00I responded to Chaviva in another media because my...I responded to Chaviva in another media because my computer was out of commission, but I wanted to share the thought here too: This post isn't referring to people who "enter" the orthodox process while dating. I'm referring to someone who has been in the process and then begins dating. And I'm glad it worked out well for J! There are certainly exceptions to the rule, but as CrazyJewishConverthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06219720130466040423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5292734369805726323.post-54426500284628181052011-03-01T18:50:21.958-05:002011-03-01T18:50:21.958-05:00I've been sitting on my response for a couple ...I've been sitting on my response for a couple of days-sorry. I wanted a little time to think, and my first try was awful.<br />I am not a convert, but my husband is. We started dating before his conversion and became engaged the day he went to the mikvah (within a few hours). He had started the process a long time before, which probably helped (he was pretty much fully observant when we Jnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5292734369805726323.post-82760982348508263632011-03-01T00:08:05.471-05:002011-03-01T00:08:05.471-05:00This is a topic on which I completely and wholly d...This is a topic on which I completely and wholly disagree with you :)<br /><br />Although, in the end -- you're damned if you do, damned if you don't.<br /><br />Maybe I should write a response post, as someone who went through the whole process with man in tow ...Chaviva Gordon-Bennetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03332712096317076482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5292734369805726323.post-88722973704550400392011-02-28T17:40:38.705-05:002011-02-28T17:40:38.705-05:00Or...he can tell use it to manipulate the relation...Or...he can tell use it to manipulate the relationship in his favor, telling you things like when you can handle a job and all the housework then maybe you will be good enough to be a Jew...all while eating your food and sleeping on your bed and making you sleep on the couch and kicking your cat completely out, thus souring you on relationships forever and making you feel that you are, indeed, Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5292734369805726323.post-81053873252312917162011-02-28T16:23:07.378-05:002011-02-28T16:23:07.378-05:00CN, depends on the rabbi. I know a girl who has 6 ...CN, depends on the rabbi. I know a girl who has 6 months to the mikvah (for bureaucratic reasons) and her chareidi beit din rabbis are trying to set her up! However, as a psychological issue, I think people should wait a month or two at least. Also, I don't like mixing simchas! However, the majority approach seems to leave it up to the convert. (Half the time, they're assuming you won'CrazyJewishConverthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06219720130466040423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5292734369805726323.post-79344404126685253522011-02-28T15:23:44.966-05:002011-02-28T15:23:44.966-05:00afaik, you need to wait even longer, than "ju...afaik, you need to wait even longer, than "just right until after the mikveh" ;)Chayah Nechamahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14444124296447622916noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5292734369805726323.post-5698613178947446982011-02-28T12:22:42.459-05:002011-02-28T12:22:42.459-05:00Larry -- Many O Jews still date, especially those ...Larry -- Many O Jews still date, especially those who consider themselves *modern* orthodox. Even ones that are shomer negiah(in my little modern orthodox bubble, I can count on one hand the number of people I know who are modern orthodox AND shomer negiah) date "normally"/according to the model of dating in secular society. In the modern world, it's either dating without touch at Lilyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12346629911135742919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5292734369805726323.post-75771514541086537892011-02-28T10:35:54.068-05:002011-02-28T10:35:54.068-05:00Good advice. Particularly now, when certain facti...Good advice. Particularly now, when certain factions are eagerly looking for evidence of insincerity. Entering a relationship is likely to cause those people to say "Ah - now we know why you wanted to convert, and it wasn't because of kabbalat ol mitzvot!" Don't give them ammunition.<br /><br />Do a lot of O Jews still date? I've been married since before becoming Larry Lennhoffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06578073969473815180noreply@blogger.com