tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5292734369805726323.post3291557095918948619..comments2023-11-12T20:59:55.490-05:00Comments on Building a Jewish Life: Convert Rants: Discouraging the Conversion CandidateKochavahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11841373131402987905noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5292734369805726323.post-9321751857211986922018-04-27T01:51:57.056-04:002018-04-27T01:51:57.056-04:00Israel Shahak (rip), writes (on p 5, "Jewish ...Israel Shahak (rip), writes (on p 5, "Jewish History, Jewish Religion: The Weight of 3,000 years"): re: conversions:<br /><br />"The Talmud and post-Talmudic rabbinic law also recognize the conversion of a non-Jew to Judaism…as a method of becoming Jewish, provided that the conversion is performed by authorized rabbis in a proper manner. <br /><br />This 'proper manner' bwhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09298103683713956526noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5292734369805726323.post-82849335000073814182012-07-30T16:37:38.591-04:002012-07-30T16:37:38.591-04:00Mishneh Torah Issurei Beiah 14:1 - What is the pro...Mishneh Torah Issurei Beiah 14:1 - What is the procedure when accepting a righteous convert? When one of the gentiles comes to convert, we inspect his background.If an ulterior motive for conversion is not found, we ask him:"Why did you choose to convert? Don't you know that in the present era, the Jews are afflicted, crushed, subjugated, strained, and suffering comes upon them?" IfAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5292734369805726323.post-68211247519493737352011-02-05T15:24:04.372-05:002011-02-05T15:24:04.372-05:00Some of those arguments are sickening! Who the Hec...Some of those arguments are sickening! Who the Heck would be so cruel as to discourage a convert-in-progress by telling them they'll never be accepted by the Jewish community/will have a hard time finding a Jewish spouse? Clearly they themselves are bigots, closeted or otherwise. Soooo wrong on so many levels...rgoldstandhttp://twitter.com/rgoldstandnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5292734369805726323.post-503680493349052962011-02-04T14:59:37.021-05:002011-02-04T14:59:37.021-05:00As far as I know the source is from Ruth. Na'a...As far as I know the source is from Ruth. Na'amah tells her to go back to her family a few times before she stops discouraging her.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5292734369805726323.post-84786902141958934682011-02-02T13:37:40.740-05:002011-02-02T13:37:40.740-05:00The next time someone not on your beit din tries t...The next time someone not on your beit din tries to discourage you, tell them that if they aren't in a position to do the conversion they aren't in a position to discourage you.Larry Lennhoffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06578073969473815180noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5292734369805726323.post-9722822559279160272011-02-02T12:53:17.585-05:002011-02-02T12:53:17.585-05:00Based on th details you mention, that sounds like ...Based on th details you mention, that sounds like the right source! Conveniently, I've never heard the "don't dissuade too much" part...CrazyJewishConverthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06219720130466040423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5292734369805726323.post-36265521680210637642011-02-02T11:57:39.258-05:002011-02-02T11:57:39.258-05:00Can anyone source the obligation to discourage the...Can anyone source the obligation to discourage the convert? In yevamot 47b it says we warn the convert prior to conversion that the Jews are hated and oppressed. We warn them that certain acts that are perfectly permissible now (eg. eating forbidden fats) will become forbidden if they convert. But then the text then says "We do not dissuade him too much". So where is all this Larry Lennhoffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06578073969473815180noreply@blogger.com